>>> pressure is building on penn state university to suspend its football program and take down a statue of joe paterno outside the stadium. the university says a decision on that statue will come in the next seven to ten days. the ncaa says it has not ruled out the so-called death penalty for penn state 's football program.
>> what the appropriate penalties are, if there are determinations of violations, we'll have to decide and we'll hold in abeyance all of those decisions till we've actually decided wa we want to do with the actual charges should there be in he. and i don't want to take anything off the able into nothing off the table but no timeline as to when the decision will be made. joining me now via skype is mark brennan . he's with fight on state.com, which covers penn state but is not affiliated with the university. mark, thank you for your time.
>> good to be here, tamron.
>> what do you think is going to happen here, the death penalty for penn state football ?
>> i would be surprised if you listen to what former ncaa investigators are saying, there really isn't an indication of a direct ncaa violation in all this mess. now, of cours of course, there were horrible things that happened and, of course, people did not handle things the right way, but in terms of finding specific ncaa violations, i don't think people -- i don't think they're going to come up with anything. now, of course, emmert is going to say fog's off the table because as judge and jury of this, it would be ridiculous for him to take anything off the table before they conduct their investigation. i would be surprised if they get the so-called death penalty .
>> you know when it comes to the so-called death penalty for football programs, people say what about the kids who did nothing and the kids whose futures are tied to these universities but their actions have nothing to do with decisions made by these colleges. i remember smu growing up in texas when that took place. but there are always the innocents who end up tied up in these things.
>> yeah, and the other end of it is penn state football is one of only two moneymakers -- obviously men's basketball. if there were a death penalty , that's going to knock out a bunch of so-called revenue sports. they take away that revenue. there are a lot of different things to think about. clearly, everybody's hearts go out to the victims of the jerry sandusky , just horrible acts. but yeah, the repercussions are just, it's unbelievable how far they stretch.
>> backing to this statue of joe paterno outside the stadium, there was at least one group that had a banner that said take it down or we will. many people find it offensive given wa came out in the freeh report. what's your take?
>> my take is they should pull the victims of the jerry sandusky be crimes and see what they think. people tend to forget about this. listen, he get that that statue has become a symbol of joe paterno 's legacy. let's not lose sight of the actual victims here. from my perspective, if the victims don't care to chime in on it, i think it would be wise for them to poll the entire university community to find out what they want to do. ultimately, i think so much focus has been put on that stupid statue that people are forgetting some of the real issues at play here.
>> obviously and those issues are too hard to forget. we know that. we're hoping anyway that the victims of these crimes stay in the front of everyone's minds here. we'll see what happens with the statue. the university says seven to ten days, they'll make the decision and perhaps close the door on it. it's always a pleasure to get your insight. coming up, v.p.s
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